Yoko in Lewisville, Texas said: ASCP has the sole license in the state of new york, therefore you cannot work if someone has their AMT. How many other states will follow?
Once the ASCP and NCA merge this year then AMT will be the only one left. Once other states start given their state licensure test SOLEY to ASCP, AMT will be long gone.
If you cannot get a license employeers WILL NOT HIRE YOU, reguardless of the experience you might have b/c it is the to acquire a license in order to WORK. Just give up the notion AMT is equal, you can read for yourself, ASCP is the SOLE licensing agency for the state of new york.
Other states will be doing the same b/c they do not want people to take TWO tests (the ascp and one state specific license). All 13 states that require a license recognize the ASCP, thus you do not have to take a additional tests. Once they make a license mandatory in all 50 states then you will either have to take the ASCP or work in another country that recognizes the AMT. Stop telling people incorrect information, you talk to any university, director that ASCP is the certification that every US student prepares for once they graduate from a NAACLS accred program. So reguardless of the experience you have as a AMT, they wil not hire once the ASCP acquires the sole license in other states like they have in New York.
I disageejust because some states have it not all states do.just because nca and acsp merge it has nothing to do with amt.i doubt all 50 states will require it,because of the shortage of qualified technologists if it possible to do so then you will grandfathered in as long as your a medical technologist. Amt is another qualifing agencyfor med techs if you read in advance magazine for adds they ask for ascp or equivelent and amt is equiv.there is nothing wrong with them there equiv to ascp as long as you take the test in other states they accept it.sometimes ascp acts like their the only bo. I'm planning on taking the AMT in May to get my technician license in Florida. I also plan on becoming licensed as a technologist with an AS degree.
That will be through AAB. I'm not worried about Florida deciding to require all techs to be ASCP certified because 1) I'd be grandfathered in and 2) They don't have enough techs to do that. That's why you're able to work as a technologist with only an AS degree in this state. They need people in the. Oh and I never plan on moving to New York or California so I think I'll be okay. If other states won't recognize me as a technologist with an AS, then I'll just stay here in Florida.
If I had to obtain a Bachelors degree to obtain work, I would leave this profession and get a Bachelors degree in Nursing. I WILL NOT spend all that money to make what this field pays. There's also a lot more job flexibility as a nurse. The only reason I'm in this field is because it was a faster route to more money (technologist level). Steph.I know for a fact that there are places here that DO recognize it and pay you as an MT.
I won't go into the names of these places because I'm looking out for myself. I'm not going to clue anyone else in on it. Also, there are a lot of desperate places. This article was posted on the ASCP website: I'm not worried that ASCP techs will be hired before me. There's a shortage in this profession and it's only going to continue growing as the older workforce retires and less people enter the profession.
Not everyone that's going to fill these positions will be ASCP certified. There's no way. I know that there's been a battle with nurses over something similar. Nurses with BSNs want ALL nures to be required to have BSNs. However, they haven't actually been able to get anything done about it.
Nurses with an Associates degree continue working and getting paid the same. Degree or not, they take the same test. I will also take the same test someone with a Bachelors degree would take. There's no difference.
Hospitals and clinics do recognize all approved certifications, if they have any sense. I have been on the side of things and it is hard to find good steady MT/MLT that can multitask as a generalist.
As long as they have an approved certification as per CLIA/State regulation, can do the job and have a little personality, they are hired. There are not enough techs out in the field to single out ASCP only; it took me 8 months to fill one position with only three applicants. I am an MLT working as a two clinic manager and have been doing so for 6 years.
I have passed all of my lab inspections at both clinics with perfect reviews. By the way both labs are high complexity and my salary is $65000/ year, which is not bad for just an MLT with NCA certification. It is true that I can't be a but Supervisor yes. Directors have always been a doctor or Pathologist in a or clinic. Including my clinics, we have a pathologist that comes in and signs off on documents or answers questions pertaining to inspections.
Even when I lived in Arizona, we had a pathologist as Director in our hospital. My clinic labs service 30 physicians in pediatric specialty and as I said before both labs are high complexity including working up microbiology and reading plates. Here is a copy of the regulations according to our state website, Section. I have never seen a director of a anything but a Pathologist and I have worked in the field for 20 years also. I have been offered positions for supervisory positions in two large hospitals in the area but chose to stay in a hands on clinic setting. Please read the following. Supervisor 1.
Qualified director of high complexity testing. Qualified Technical Supervisor.
MD, DO, DPM, doctorate, master's or bachelor's degree in lab science and. Nissan vanette service manual pdf. 1 year lab training/experience in high complexity testing.
Degree in lab science or medical lab technology and. 2 years lab training/experience in high complexity testing.:). In the past there were several ways to achieve MT status without having a degree.
The BS degree was never meant as an end-all but to help get in the door and be hired. I don't care how many degrees you have if you are a crappy worker you will be fired. I've seen workers that had an endless amount of letters behind their name and they used it as a crutch. Phrases like 'I never wanted to just be a bench tech' and 'I didn't train all those years to be a machine maintenance person' are usually heard. For those of you who are not familiar with HEW cards, the Social Security Amendments of 1972 authorized the Department of and formerly, Health, and Welfare (HEW) to provide an exam for people who had experience but did not meet the CLIA education and training requirements. The HEW exam was given four times between 1975 and 1977, then again in 1979, 1983, and 1987. The exam concentrated on clinical, microbiology, hematology, and blood.
Individuals who received an acceptable score on the exam were issued an HEW card, and then were qualified to perform high-complexity testing. Nothing to complain about anymore, directors and all the high end positions in the lab are always 100% BS MT ASCP certified and up. People with anything less than that are never considered for the ranking positions. However, were all eagerly waiting for some real standards to be created in the lab already because this is total nonsense that's been going on for a long while.
They need to get more students interested into this field due to the huge shortage and the only way to do that is to attract them with higher brighter pay, so increase the standards and make a single certification exam. BS MT (ASCP) only and all the way, let the others who are already working get grandfathered in but from here on out NO MORE.
Bogus in Richardson, Texas said: I've worked in 5 different professions and I've never see a job that's so hung up on the I'm better than you syndrome. All other companies just have on the name badges. These associates usually range from high school graduates to PhD's. Are all laboratorians that frustrated with who they are?
AMT is just as good as ASCP and it's the tech that makes the difference. No one 'suffered' any more than anyone else. You really hit the nail on the head. A tech is just a lab tech.
It doen't matter if you are an MT, CLS, MLT, military trained, or registered by ASCP, AMT, NCA - in the end, you are a just a lab tech. It does not matter if you have no classes in organic or a Ph.D. In organic chemistry, if you are working in a clinical lab, you are a lab tech. If you want respect, recognition and prestige, either get out of the field or don't enter it in the first place.
BTW, I have worked with many military trained lab techs and I don't find them inferior to MT(ASCP)s at all. MT standards you have no idea what your talking about. There are standards for every ancillary field, we are dealing with human life not stocking shelves. The major universities have said what the standards are to becoming a tech, that is the ASCP. It's like saying I am a major or a pharmacy tech but I can be payed like a pharmacist because I work in a pharmacy. There are laws in pharmacy where even though u count pills and check scripts, noons else can do that bc there are laws in place.
There are 13 states that need a license to work as a tech, so u have no clue what you need to be competant and hired as a lab tech. So you're saying that if you're a MT(ASCP) you deserve all the respect and money even if you're lame at work?
That a cert is the end all and everything of work and no one else should be considered to put a sample on a machine? Maybe phlebs should make more cash that MT's. They are the ones that people see and they have the job that requires a skill. If you make twice what a phleb makes shouldn't you be worth twice what they are? I don't want to stick and I'll take less to sit behind my little protected wall. Happy freekin lab week.
No, the point your missing here is. If everyone goes for their ASCP certification and that becomes the only certification required to work in the as an MT then our pay/standards all go up. Don't you want to get paid more? Why the hell would you keep vouching for degree/certificate programs when that only brings a job's salary way lower now? MT(BS)ASCP becomes the only required license to work in the NY state and California, why else do you think we get paid alot more than any other state and thus no MT who works here or in California never complains?
Larry you are a IDIOT, its beacuase of people lke you we have no standards in the. If you wanted to be a XRAY TECH, there is only ONE CERTIFICATION they take when you graduate.
Its the AART. That is what employeers look for when they graduate. They dont have 3-4 different certifications to take. They have their RT (AART) that is what is required to become a xray tech.
And guess what, most make more than a BS MT (ASCP). Everyone wants a shortcut, there is no short cut, you are in the united states and we have standards, if you want a short cut go to a third world country, there you can push buttons without a certification and hell you can become a pharmacist if you want as well, you can count pills without a pharmD. Here in american we have standards for every ancillary field, hell you need a license to be a dietician. RT (AART) = xtray RN (NCLEX)= nursing pharmD (NAPLEX) = pharmacy MT (ASCP), MT (AAB), MT (AMT), CLS (NCA) = Lab (GIVE ME A BREAK, this is why we are paid the worst out of all the anciallary profession, NO STANDARDS). The reason nursing have such high salaries is because they have great PR people.
Their certification and associations are always talking about the shortage of nursing staff. MT certifications and associations don't go through the effort of letting people know we have shortages and who we are.
No one knows about our profession unless 1. We tell them or 2.
They happen to see it in a catalog. All anyone knows about is the phlebotomist. If employees knew about our shortages and potential shortages in the future through the certification/associations and news, they would be more willing to try and retain the techs they have and keep them a little happier. Well anyway that is my observation about the subject of salaries.
The higher salaries in NY and California are because of the cost of living for the area. Pay ranges vary depending on where you live. NY and California just found a way to make a little extra cash by adding their own Certification process. Have a great weekend! Larry try to work in new york as a new grad, the ASCP is the SOLE LICENSING AGENCY FOR THAT STATE. So if you are a new grad in new york and want to take any other cert (AMT OR AAB) YOUR SOL. So you can move to ther other states that does not have standards FOR NOW.
Once other states realize that ASCP is the gold standard, other states will make the ASCP the SOLE Licensing Agency like New York and California. Larry I suggest you stay away from those two states b/c according to you certifications dont matter, until other states start implementing ASCp as the SOLE licensing agency, you might end up working in ALASKA where they might be the only one accepting the AMT or AAB or no cert.
Well anyway that is my observation about the subject of salaries. The higher salaries in NY and California are because of the cost of living for the area. Pay ranges vary depending on where you live. NY and California just found a way to make a little extra cash by adding their own Certification process. Have a great weekend!
Well actually I am out on the floor also because I chose to keep my Phlebotomy skills which include newborns. I do get myself out there but patients think I’m a nurses and draw station patient think I am just phlebotomy.I have also worked in a 28 doctor clinic which had a high complexity and patients that seen me often thought I was a nurse. No wonder no one knows about lab with the bad attitudes and introverted personalities that are in this profession. I guess that is why I never fit in with my own co-workers. I’m to extroverted for them. They seem to be unmarried or unhappy, have a multitude of cats and dogs and very few have a life outside the lab.
What happened? And as for the reference labs you get what you pay for, errors, delays and extended turnaround times. Yoko in Lewisville, Texas said: ASCP has the sole license in the state of new york, therefore you cannot work if someone has their AMT. How many other states will follow? Once the ASCP and NCA merge this year then AMT will be the only one left. Once other states start given their state licensure test SOLEY to ASCP, AMT will be long gone.
If you cannot get a license employeers WILL NOT HIRE YOU, reguardless of the experience you might have b/c it is the to acquire a license in order to WORK. Just give up the notion AMT is equal, you can read for yourself, ASCP is the SOLE licensing agency for the state of new york. Other states will be doing the same b/c they do not want people to take TWO tests (the ascp and one state specific license). All 13 states that require a license recognize the ASCP, thus you do not have to take a additional tests. Once they make a license mandatory in all 50 states then you will either have to take the ASCP or work in another country that recognizes the AMT. Stop telling people incorrect information, you talk to any university, director that ASCP is the certification that every US student prepares for once they graduate from a NAACLS accred program.
So reguardless of the experience you have as a AMT, they wil not hire once the ASCP acquires the sole license in other states like they have in New York. Don't put down AMT, I am AMT and proud of it. Now, I am also ASCP, NCA, and a licensed Clinical Laboratory Technologist in New York, it doesn't matter even if you are ASCP, NCA, AAB, etc., without New York License you cannot work in this State. By the way, I always use MT(AMT) and works for me! Miracle Worker in Belleville, New Jersey said: Don't put down AMT, I am AMT and proud of it. Now, I am also ASCP, NCA, and a licensed Clinical Technologist in New York, it doesn't matter even if you are ASCP, NCA, AAB, etc., without New York License you cannot work in this State. By the way, I always use MT(AMT) and works for me!
Sad to say, where I work in New York. I am the only one I knew that is certified by various certifying agencies and Registry. Our Lab, Manager is a graduate with MA not certified, my Supervisor and one tech.
Are also not certified, the second tech. Is not even Med. Also not certified. But they are all New York Licensed including myself.
Sometimes I wonder how the Hell these people are working in the lab? When I checked the work of this person that is not even Med. I'm scared for the patients lives.
The work is sloppy and results are fabricated. I told the Manager and Supervisor and show her work, they just shrugged off their shoulders and brushed me in the rug. I guessed, I was hired for State and Laboratory Personnel? My point is, no matter what your certification is, is very important especially if it is nationally recognized. Well to clarify a little, before 2 years ago, to work in CA all you needed was to pass the state CLS exam and get the CA CLS license.
So, people without ASCP or NCA got CA CLS licenses and started working. In fact, these people today are still working not ASCP certified but since they have the state license, they can work.
However, almost all jobs for CLS here prefer ASCP certification and list it in the job ad so it definitely helps. Starting 2 years ago, CA did away with the state exam because there was a shortage of CLSs. So now they allow anyone with a MT(ASCP) or MT(AAB) to apply for a state license. It's actually the first time I heard about MT(AAB) and really don't know much about it, but it's a second route to getting your CA CLS license. I think the main reason why CLS is pay is good here is that technicians cannot release results.
American Medical Technologist Review Book
This forced hospitals to find CLSs to release the results while at the same time the amount of CLSs that actually passed the state exam dwindled, hence the shortage. This created a high demand for CLSs up the pay. So basically there wasn't standards for MLT. However last year the state changed that with trying to make an MLT standard and opening 2 MLT schools in CA. So far it hasn't affected anything and I hope it stays like that. You will see your pay go down, my friend in cali is working as a CLS for 35/hour.
Once they put MLT or CLT in this case, they will prob start them at 15-19, thus will see they can get away with hiriing MLT for that low, overall decreasing future CLS pay. I guarantee you, in 5 years you will not see CLS pay in the 30-40 b/c MLT/CLT will be in the equation. Its like pharmacists command 50/hour everywhere. If they created a nursing pharmacist and payed only 30-40 per/hour, gradually as years progressed you will be pharmacist salaries go down b/c they are cheaper workers.
But pharmacy does not have a alternative like the. From the AMT website - Know any lawyers? From this website it's quite evident by the comments that discrimination is taking place in the workplace. Applicants that meet or exceed minimum state requirements are being paid less or refused job oportunities. I'm sure AMT would love to hear from you.
ASCP and NCA do not have a monopoly in the US and if they do call your state rep. And maybe a lawyer. You can use this site for reference. AMT is, of course, a well-recognized certification body, accredited by the National Commission on Certifying Agencies, in continuous operation since 1939, and operating throughout the United States and in many foreigncountries as well. AMT's qualification standards to sit for the MLT(AMT) exam are equivalent to those of ASCP, so it is difficult to conceive of a rational basis for discriminating in favor of one certification over the other. On those relatively rare occasions when we do hear complaints of some kind of 'anti-AMT' discrimination in the workplace, we of course energetically investigate them. In the vast majority of cases, it turns out the reasons the AMT-certificant was not being treated as they wished had absolutely nothing at all to do with their AMT certification but was due to some other reason-for example, perhaps the lack of an educational credential deemed essential by the employer.
Having said this, if you-or any other AMT certificant reading this letter-ever do encounter clear evidence it is the AMT certification itself that is being discriminated against, please do let us know right away and we will take aggressive steps to seek to correct the problem. Spot you are a moron, do you think directors or the will tell you why they are someone with a ASCP or a AMT. Guess what is just commen sense that the lab will hire the person with their SAME CREDENTIALS.
They will never tell you why they hire you over the other person. Guess what most if not all lab directors are ASCP certified. They will hire a AMT if they are desperate and have no other applicants. You can get all the lawyers you want, b/c this will finally shed light on the fact that we NEED STANDARDS. One certification for the profession, so maybe some attention will help the profession. And by the way, ASCP and NCA has their own lawyers are well, so keep up the attention and then all you folks that want to take the AMT b/c you couldnt pass the ASCP will be SOL.
Rohan you are correct. These people that have the AMT are either foreign or could not pass the ASCP b/c they did not go to a naacls acred program. They know most directors (the ones that do the ) are ASCP certified. They will always look for people with the same credentials b/c they know how difficult the exam was.
These are the facts spot, no lawyer can help you, in the state of new york if you are a NEW GRAD, the only way to get LICENSED in through the ASCP, so how is your AMT going to help any new grads in the state of new york, HOW MANY STATES WILL FOLLOW? Ramon in El Paso, Arkansas said: Brina you can never be a manager at a large.
Only MT can be directors and department supervisors, that is just a clia. You must work for a small clinic or doctors office because as a traveling tech every hospital I worked at the has a BS MT (ASCP) I have worked in over 50 hospitals and traveled for over 20 years, 99% of all directors were either BS MT (ASCP) or MT (ASCP) with a MBA. And almost all department supervisors had there BS MT. Those are just the stats from across the country.
American Medical Technologist Study Guide
Not everyone wants to be in upper mgmt. Too much headache.
Contents. History The Medical Technologist Certification (MT) is the flagship certification of American Medical Technologists (AMT), a professional organization which was founded in 1939. The AMT established a Council on Education, Qualifications and Standards Committee in 1955, and the modern 'MT' designation was created in 1968, when the AMT created the certification categories of Medical Technologist (MT) and Medical Laboratory Technician (MLT).
In 2000, a computer-based version of the MT exam was released. Over 60,000 certified professionals belong to the AMT, though because the AMT maintains nine categories of certification, it is not clear what proportion of their membership has MT certification specifically. Function of the Test. The MT exam is a certification examination for entry-level medical technologists.
The typical candidate is a medical technologist who has received his or her degree within the past five years. Because most states in the United States have no certification requirements for clinical laboratory personnel, holding MT certification from the AMT confers no special privileges or licensure in most jurisdictions. In this context, MT certification serves primarily to encourage professional development and help new medical technologists demonstrate value to employers. However, in ten states (plus Puerto Rico) that require clinical laboratory personnel to be certified, MT certification does satisfy the legal requirement. Only in New York and California is AMT certification invalid for state certification requirements. Candidates must meet an education requirement in order to be eligible to take the exam.
This requirement can be met with a Bachelor's degree in Medical Technology or through a combination of relevant academic training and work experience. The AMT does not appear to report how many people take the MT examination each year or how many pass the exam.
The MT exam is administered year-round at Pearson VUE testing centers. The cost to apply for and take the examination is $135. The test is computer-based and has a time limit of 3.5 hours. According to the AMT's general candidate handbook, all AMT exams comprise 200-230 multiple choice questions with four possible answer choices. Candidates receive their score and results immediately following the computer-based examination.
Candidates who wish to retake the examination may do so one time without needing to submit a new application. Candidates who wish to take the examination a third or fourth time must submit a new application each time and must provide proof of additional training or retraining since the last application.
Candidates who fail the exam a fourth time are barred from taking the exam again. Citroen c5 x7 owners manual. Candidates with disabilities who require special testing accommodations must request accommodations at the time of their initial application to take the MT exam. Applications for testing accommodation must include medical documentation, a personal statement, and proof of prior accommodations for the same disability. Test Format Test Structure The Medical Technologist test is offered as a computer based exam, lasting around three and a half hours. It deals with 11 major topics: General Laboratory; Chemistry; Hematology; Coagulation and Hemostasis; Immunology and Serology; Immunohematology; Blood Banking; Bacteriology; Parasitology; Mycology; and Urinalysis. There are about 200 to 230 multiple choice questions in all, each with four answer choices. Test Environment The MT Test is given by Pearson VUE.
Candidates are expected to arrive at the testing site at least half an hour before the examination is scheduled to begin. There, two forms of ID are required for admission, one of which must be a government issued ID with a photo. In the testing room, all electronics, foods, drinks, and study material are prohibited. Test Content.
Sample Medical Technologist Questions. Receiving cannot accept a specimen unless it has: A.
A correct, legible label B. An uncontaminated, signed requisition with billing information C. An intact container with correct media D. All of the above. US law overrides the patient's right to confidentiality if: A. The patient has a sexually transmitted disease or tuberculosis (TB) B.
The caregiver is likely to be infected C. Authorities suspect child abuse or neglect under CAPTA D. All of the above. Decreased sodium in the blood is: A. Hypernatremia, often from diabetes, burns, or Cushing syndrome B.
Hyponatremia, often from vomiting and diarrhea, furosemide, or Addison disease C. Hyperkalemia, often from acidosis, spironolactone, or kidney failure D. Hypokalemia, often from alkalosis, stomach cancer, or eating too much licorice. Confirm a fungal infection found through microscopy with a: A. Latex serology for cryptococcal antigen B. Fungal serology titer of more than 1:32 that increases x4 or more 3 weeks later C. Complement fixation for coccidiomycosis and histoplasmosis D.
Immunodiffusion for blastomycosis. Reject a transfusion request when: A. Recipient blood specimen is hemolyzed B. The patient armband does not have a unique identifier C. Donor blood is lipemic, clotted, or contains foreign objects D.
All of the above. A pregnancy test may be ordered for a man with: A. Testicular cancer B. Prostatitis C.
Cryptorchidism D. Peyronie disease More. Scoring The AMT reports that its examinations have 200-230 questions. The distribution of content on the MT exam is as follows: Distribution of questions on the MT exam Section% of Questions General Laboratory 12% Chemistry 20% Hematology 13% Coagulation and Hemostasis 7% Immunology and Serology 9% Immunohematology 10% Blood Banking 6% Bacteriology 12% Parasitology 1% Mycology 1% Urinalysis 9% Total 100% Scores on the MT exam are scaled to a range of 0 to 100. The passing score is 70.
Scores are scaled in order to adjust for the exact difficulty levels of different forms of the exam so that candidates who take more difficult forms of the exam are judged fairly compared to candidates who take easier forms of the exam. It is important to note that the scaled score is neither a raw score nor a percentage. For example, a scaled score of 90 does not mean that the candidate answered 90% of questions correctly.
Guessing does not appear to be penalized on the MT exam, but the AMT does not report exactly how raw scores or scaled scores are calculated. Answers to Sample Questions 1;D 2;D 3;B 4;B 5;D 6;A References. ^ December 28 2014. December 28 2014. ^ December 28 2014.
December 28 2014. December 28 2014. December 28 2014. The AMT gives both paper-and-pencil and computer-based tests for some of its certifications. However, in the AMT's candidate handbook, the MT exam is not listed among the paper-and-pencil exams, suggesting that the paper-based version of the MT exam has been phased out. ^ December 28 2014. December 28 2014.
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AMT Testing American Medical Technologists (AMT) is a national agency that certifies seven primary designations of healthcare personnel: medical technologists, medical laboratory technicians, office laboratory technicians, medical assistants, phlebotomy technicians, dental assistants and medical office administrative specialists. The organization’s purpose is to help protect the welfare of the public by maintaining competency standards in these occupations. AMT Certification examinations are intended to evaluate the competence of entry-level practitioners. The examinations address content areas defined and validated by subject-matter experts, educators and individuals working in their respective fields. As the examinations provide only one source of information regarding examinee competence, they are used in conjunction with other indicators of training and experience in the granting of certification. Certification Application.
The Medical Technologist, or MT, Certification Exam is an online test created by the American Medical Technologists, or AMT, and administered by Pearson VUE. The exam is used to determine whether you have the right stuff to be a competent, certified, entry-level medical technologist. Studying for the MT Certification Exam is like studying for other exams; it requires a lot of time and hard work. But, it's well worth the effort when you get that passing score and are one step closer to being certified as a medical technologist. The test is complicated, but with the right prep work, you can knock it out of the ballpark.
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